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OBF Obsidian Flames

Released 11 August 2023 · 406 cards · 36 packs per box

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Obsidian Flames Booster Box

Is a booster box of OBF worth opening?

Box price$381TCGplayer market price
Expected value$142$135 to $150 depending on the rates
If you sell the cards$75.78With a 5% fee and leaving out cards under $0.50
A typical box$65.71The median of 10,000 simulated boxes
You get your money back0.0%Almost never

On average, no: selling the cards from a OBF box would get you $75.78, 20% of the $381 it costs. A typical box gives $65.71 and only 0.0% of boxes get your money back. If you're after a specific card, buying it as a single is usually cheaper.

How reliable the rates are: good (several sources that agree).

OBF pull rates

How many cards of each rarity group come in a 36-pack box, how many packs it takes to pull one specific card of the group and how much the group adds to the box value.

RarityCardsPer boxOne specificAddsShare
Illustration 12 2.7 (2.5–2.9) 1 in 158 packs $33.41 24%
Common 92 144 (144–144) 1 in 23 packs $22.19 16%
Special illustration 6 1.1 (0.99–1.3) 1 in 192 packs $22.07 16%
Reverse holo 176 67 (67–68) 1 in 94 packs $18.74 13%
Uncommon 74 108 (108–108) 1 in 25 packs $18.49 13%
Hyper Rare (gold) 3 0.69 (0.59–0.80) 1 in 156 packs $8.87 6.2%
Ultra Rare 12 2.4 (2.2–2.6) 1 in 181 packs $7.45 5.2%
Double Rare 21 4.9 (4.6–5.2) 1 in 154 packs $6.08 4.3%
Rare 10 29 (28–29) 1 in 13 packs $4.94 3.5%

The cards that carry the box

What weighs most in the expected value: expensive cards that are hard to pull.

The most expensive OBF cards

Their version and today's TCGplayer and Cardmarket price.

CardRarityTCGplayerCardmarket
Charizard ex OBF 223/197Normal Special Illustration Rare $86.48 —
Charizard ex OBF 228/197Normal Hyper Rare $33.42 —
Ninetales OBF 199/197Normal Illustration Rare $31.71 €25.73
Charizard ex OBF 215/197Normal Ultra Rare $20.50 —
Cleffa OBF 202/197Normal Illustration Rare $30.14 €16.89
Pidgeot ex OBF 225/197Normal Special Illustration Rare $15.05 €14.86
Gloom OBF 198/197Normal Illustration Rare $17.66 €12.60
Scizor OBF 205/197Normal Illustration Rare $11.57 —
Pidgey OBF 207/197Normal Illustration Rare $10.49 €8.20
Pidgeotto OBF 208/197Normal Illustration Rare $8.29 €6.52
Eiscue ex OBF 222/197Normal Special Illustration Rare $6.24 —
Lechonk OBF 209/197Normal Illustration Rare $10.65 €5.22

OBF booster box price over the last year

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TCGplayer market price, in dollars.

Sealed product

Where the numbers come from

The expected value adds up, for each rarity group, the copies in a box times the average price of its cards (the English card, with its TCGplayer price or, if there isn't one, Cardmarket's converted). The simulation opens 10,000 boxes with the same rates.

TCGplayer study of more than 8,000 opened packs (95% confidence interval): Double Rare 1 in 7 packs, Ultra Rare 1 in 15, Illustration Rare 1 in 13, Special Illustration Rare 1 in 32 and Hyper Rare 1 in 52. Commons, uncommons, rares and reverse holos come from the pack layout (4 commons, 3 uncommons, 2 reverse holo slots and 1 rare or better).

Pull rate sources: tcgplayer.com (opens in a new tab)

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